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*Official* The new Canon 20D
PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:59 pm Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
BostonBullit
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hot diggity dang! http://www.dpreview.com/news/0408/04081909canon_eos20d.asp

zee highlights, according to Phil over at dpreview

8.2 megapixel CMOS sensor - 1.6x multiplier, new NR, new microlenses

Near instant power on time - around 0.2 sec compared to the EOS 10D's 2.5 sec

5 fps continuous, 23 frames - can actually shoot for longer with a fast card

All new 9 point AF system - better low light performance, much faster AF

DIGIC II processor - same as EOS 1D Mark II, improved image quality

Support for EF-S lenses - lens mount now has space for rear element of EF-S lens

Faster top shutter speed - fastest shutter speed now up to 1/8000 sec

Faster X-sync shutter speed - flash sync speed up to 1/250 sec

Modified parameter sets - two presets, three custom, default +1, +1, +1

Black & White mode - selectable color filter and toning

Separate color space selection - sRGB / Adobe RGB via menu option

True RAW + JPEG support - writes a .CR2 and .JPG for each shot taken

New WB shift / WB bracketing screen - WB shift on two axis, new setup screen

Control of Long exposure NR - long exposure noise reduction can be disabled by user

Menu hints - to ensure you're in the right mode after changing setting

Record review histogram via INFO button - menu option has been removed

USB 2.0 Hi-speed connectivity - the first Canon to support it, around 3.0 MB/sec

PictBridge direct printing support - standard direct print support

Support for DVK-E2 data verification kit - image authenticity with the verify kit

New BG-E2 battery grip - slightly smaller, includes a six AA battery magazine

Slightly smaller and lighter body - only a shave here or there but does feel smaller

Higher pop-up flash - for better wide angle cover and red-eye performance

Smaller mirror & new focusing screen - no need for such a large mirror, better MF

CF activity light moved - no more holes in the CF compartment door

Flush connectors cover - cover fits almost flush to the side of the camera

Combined power & quick control dial lock - power switch now controls quick dial lock

New multi-controller 'joystick' - nine-way joystick for AF point, panning, WB shift

Updated menu design - more in line with newest PowerShot's

Backup battery moved to compartment - inside battery compartment

Embossed Canon logo - last but not least!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:32 pm Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
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oh. maybe don't surf on over to cc.com instead.

i think the 20D looks swell. 5 fps sounds just about right to me, and stepping up from 3.2 CMOS megapixels (from my now-deceased D30) to 8.2 buttery smooth CMOS megapixels should be nice. i just hope that noise is controlled without ugly detail reduction a la kodak.


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Re: *Official* The new Canon 20D
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SICK!! Looks like it will be released in September...

5fps, 8megapixel, faster AF.....= im selling my 10d!!!

Please post more info if you come across any....im hoping B&H does a pre-release order...
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Re: *Official* The new Canon 20D
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I wonder why the flash sync speed is still slow? 1/500 would be nice.
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Re: *Official* The new Canon 20D
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ThoughtfulPirate wrote:
I wonder why the flash sync speed is still slow? 1/500 would be nice.

the nikon d70 and the canon 1D, both of which have 1/500 x-sync, are both ccd sensor cameras. furthermore both also use the sensor itself as a shutter for speeds over a certain threshold. canon's cmos cameras (including the 1DMkII and this new beast) rely on the physical shutter at all shutter speeds so can't get the same high x-sync. Embarassed
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is this the replacement for the 10d or is it a completely different model. any pricing yet?
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Re: *Official* The new Canon 20D
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$1500 (body only) has been popping up on various websites. Not sure if Canon made the MSRP public yet....www.dpreview.com lists the street value at $1500 and they are usually pretty accurate
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darksideofthemoon wrote:
is this the replacement for the 10d or is it a completely different model. any pricing yet?

the word from canon itself is that the "estimated street price" will be $1499 without lens. it is definitely a 10D replacement, and the odd name is probably supposed to be reminscent of the D30 --> D60 transition.

http://www.canonusa.com/templatedata/pressrelease/20040819_eos_20d.html
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sweet!!!!! thanks
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I might just have to get one...did you see the images on dpreview.com ? they look better than even the Mark II!!

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Re: *Official* The new Canon 20D
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Im picking it up when it comes out. Cant wait!!

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Re: *Official* The new Canon 20D
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Seriously, just buy a Nikon D70. Everyone I know who knows something about cameras tells me it just can't be beat. And I have to agree, i've owned my for little more than 3 months, and it rocks. Only cameras I've seen produce better quality prints cost at least $5000, the D70 (Body + Lens) runs right around 1300, damn good deal.

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Re: *Official* The new Canon 20D
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DownCycles_Stef wrote:
Seriously, just buy a Nikon D70. Everyone I know who knows something about cameras tells me it just can't be beat.


must not be a very long list Laughing

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Re: *Official* The new Canon 20D
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DownCycles_Stef wrote:
Seriously, just buy a Nikon D70. Everyone I know who knows something about cameras tells me it just can't be beat. And I have to agree, i've owned my for little more than 3 months, and it rocks. Only cameras I've seen produce better quality prints cost at least $5000, the D70 (Body + Lens) runs right around 1300, damn good deal.

-Stef



er, so the canon 1Ds costs over $5000. what other cameras were you talking about? medium format digital backs?

(oh yeah, i'm near the top of the list for the 20D at www.tallyns.com . mention me if you also decide to get on their list)
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